I shake my head in total shock:

“Did you ever notice what precipitated all the horrible things in Romans 1?

The idolatry, the lust, the lies, the sodomy, the lesbianism, the avoidance of God, the reprobate mind, the unrighteousness, the fornication, the wickedness, the covetousness, the envy, the murder, the pride, the disobedience, the stupidity (without understanding), the covenant breaking, the loss of natural affection, the inability to be satisfied or happy, the lack of mercy, and the rest?

Romans 1 v 21: NEITHER WERE THANKFUL. If you are an ingrate – those other things await you.”

Please note, this person says “lesbianism” – the correct term would be “homosexuality”.  Sodomy isn’t only committed by homosexuals, it is also used in rape, and rape isn’t a sexual crime, it is revenge, it serves to humiliate its victim MENTALLY.   One only has to look at Benghazi to know that sodomy isn’t only committed by homosexuals.  It’s the reason why rape is used in war.  The Bible calls it “being ravaged”.

And reprobate minds belong to the UNSAVED:

2 Corinthians 13:5 –  Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

If Jesus Christ isn’t in you, if you aren’t in Christ – you are a reprobate,  you have a REPROBATE MIND, i.e.,you are an unsaved person, hence the reason why the Apostle Paul tells us to examine ourselves, whether we be in the FAITH (the faith of Christ, i.e., Pauline NOMENCLATURE, those who have believed that Christ died FOR THEIR SINS, was buried and rose again on the third day alone FOR THEIR SALVATION).

Who knew God (past tense) in times PAST?

We as members of the body of Christ know God (present tense).

So who is the Apostle Paul talking to or referring to in verse 21?

Romans 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Israel.  The Jews in times past.  The twelve tribes.

When they KNEW Him, they glorified Him not, neither were they thankful that they were chosen, had all the earthly blessings they could imagine, not to mention the promises God made to them.  Instead they turned their backs on Him and fell into apostasy.  They became vain in their imaginations (past tense), and their foolish heart (singular) was darkened.   They turned to the way of the heathens (Gentiles), and became idol worshippers.

You don’t know how to read ENGLISH?

You don’t realise that Paul is ALSO talking to his kinsmen in the flesh (Jews) at times in his epistles, and isn’t BLATANTLY IGNORING THEM?

Romans 9:3-4 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

You cannot discern between past and present tense?   We are currently in Paul’s present tense.  Why?  Because we are still living in the Dispensation of the Grace of God.

Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.


God also GAVE them up to uncleannes

Who CHANGED the TRUTH OF GOD (Abrahamic Covenant) into a lie,

and WORSHIPPED and SERVED the CREATURE (golden calf anyone?) more than the Creator………

How many times in the Old Covenant does God through the prophets mention that Israel turned to idol worship and went the same way as the heathen Gentiles?

But now we get certain REPROBATE MINDS who cannot discern who the Apostle Paul is referrin g to in Romans 1, but because the Apostle Paul uttered it, they automatically apply it to “reprobate members of the body of Christ” who don’t believe their Sonship Edification/Sons of God theory, and are therefore UNTHANKFUL and they have God’s wrath coming to them…….

Talk about still being stuck in denominationalism, you know, those heathen temples who profess to KNOW IT ALL?

Shame on you!

The reprobate mind Israel was given over to was the same reprobate mind as that of the heathens (unsaved Gentiles) :

One only has to look at Sodom and Gomorrah to prove that the heathens practised homosexuality.

Israel had given themselves over to this, and this is what UNSAVED heathen Gentiles were like – hence the reason God declared ALL, EVERYONE guilty, and all in UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.

UNSAVED human nature, which includes current day ISRAEL, therefore ALL OF HUMANITHY.   ALL :

Romans 1:

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, COVENANTBREAKERS, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Makes one wonder what these CLOWNS do with the term “COVENANTBREAKERS” when applying Romans 1 to the body of Christ who are supposedly “unthankful”.  He still mentions “covenantbreakers” in his OP?  Seriously dude? Noooooooo.  If you want to convince me of your theory (which you won’t), you’ll have to try harder than THAT.  The sheep might capitulate to your horse-dung theory, but since God gave me a brain, I reckon I MUST use it, cos if I don’t, it will be much to my own personal shame.

But, I say the following without a hint of sarcasm or hate :

To the person who wrote this, and those who believe it – don’t you think you should consider what the Apostle Paul said in 2 Corinthians 13:5?

The gospel that saves your eternal soul is to be found in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 – believe and get saved TODAY.  NOW is the time to believe.

Proverbs 27:1 – Boast not yourself of tomorrow; for you know not what a day may bring forth.


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