Some Saved People Still (erroneously) See Themselves as Sinners, but:

Romans 8:

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.



Romans 3:
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

23 For ALL HAVE SINNED, and come short of the glory of God;

Romans 3:

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
17 And the way of peace have they not known:
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.

Romans 3:
9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

God will take vengeance on the unrighteous (the unsaved), especially those who try to commend the righteousness of God through their OWN righteousness/good works.

Romans 3:
5 But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man).

OUR righteousness cannot and does not commend the righteousness of God, nor is God unrighteous when He takes vengeance on the unrighteous (the unsaved) because how else will He be able to judge the world?

Romans 3:
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

What is the redemption that is in Christ Jesus?

Is it by believing He exists? Is it by following Him according to His earthly ministry and doing as He did?

Is it by talking in tongues?

Is it by doing the works of the law? Is it by being a good person?

Is it by changing one’s lifestyle?

25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;


How did God set forth Christ to be a propitiation for our sins? Important: One must keep in mind in this regard that when Christ died for our sins they were still in the future, so we do not have remission for our sins whereby we have to do good works to maintain the remission (for our sins) as in times past. as verse 25 states.

Proof : 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, Ephesians 2:8-9, both which state that works are not required for salvation, only faith.

Romans 3:

26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

How does God AT THIS TIME declare His righteousness in order that He might be the justifier of those which believe in Jesus?

1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

Christ’s finished work on Calvary’s Cross and His resurrection.

How do we take advantage of this God-given amnesty?

Purely through faith.

Romans 3:
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

Faith-belief-trust are synonyms.

Do you trust Christ’s full payment for  your sins on Calvary’s cross and that He rose from the dead for your salvation?

Do you believe that Christ died for your sins, was buried and rose again on the third day for your salvation?

Do you have faith in Christ’s finished work on Calvary’s cross and His resurrection for the salvation of your soul?

Faith alone in Christ’s finished work on Calvary’s cross and His resurrection.

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 has no “ifs” and “buts”.  It clearly states (paraphrased) that if one believes that He died for your sins, was buried and rose again on the third day – you ARE saved – not might be saved or will be saved, ARE saved.

Romans 3 identifies the sin problem and informs us that Christ was the propitiation for our sin, the justifier of those who believe in Him – it doesn’t tell us according to what we are to believe Him/in Him to receive Him as our Justifier.

If we only had Romans 3 to guide us on how to be saved, we’d remain lost, why? because Man could and probably would conjure up a myriad of ways Christ could have been the propitiation for our sins, not to mention how He is the justifier of those who believe in Him.  We already see this in those who are biblically illiterate and follow Christ according to His earthly ministry.  It is also confirmed with Acts 2 Dispensationalists who believe Israel’s Kingdom Gospel for their salvation, but at the same time also claim to be saved by faith alone, and hold to the doctrine of eternal security.

Saved people trusted Christ according to 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

The very reason they ARE saved.

Romans 3 tells us the problem is sin, and that all of mankind has been declared GUILTY before God, so I’m not sure why there are some out there who profess that sin isn’t THE problem and that all of mankind has been/is automatically reconciled to God, as sinful, lost men cannot be reconciled to a holy and righteous God.  The very reason we are in need of a Saviour is because we are sinners, separated from God.

The very reason Christ died was for our sins, and the reason He rose from the dead was for our justification. To receive forgiveness of those sins and become reconciled to God is only through faith in Christ’s finished work on Calvary’s cross and His resurrection, only then can He impute HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS to you and declare you holy/righteous in His eyes – Romans 4:25.  His righteousness comes by faith alone, not by the works of the law, i.e., good works.


There are certain conditions (for want of a better word/description) for lost people, who because of these “conditions” fail to see themselves as hellbound sinners:

The religious lost
The wealthy lost.
The poor lost.
The educated lost
What do all of these people have in common?

The majority are under the impression that they are good people, that being a good person gets one into heaven, or at the very least, they will die being “good” people who others speak well of long after they have passed on.

The religious lost are some of the most difficult people to tell that they are sinners in need of a Saviour because they are under the mistaken impression they have “found God”, so not necessary to preach the gospel to them (so they think). Their being “blessed” is proof of their salvation status (so they think). They fall under the banner of the christian lost or any of the other false religions.

The wealthy lost are under the mistaken impression that their money is all. Donating to charity is everything because it proves they are good people, they therefore do not see themselves as hellbound sinners. Doing good = going to heaven (in certain instances, if they believe there is a heaven and if there is a God, otherwise they are just good people with a good reputation to maintain, having great social responsibilities = earthly fame, they will be remembered).

The poor lost, those who call themselves christians have a Lazarus complex, i.e., their poverty stands them is good stead for automatic entrance into heaven, they therefore do not see themselves as hellbound sinners. For the poor lost who aren’t religious, life is so difficult on this earth, they think there is no God because if there were a God they wouldn’t be in the predicament they are in. No God = no hell, therefore don’t see themselves as hellbound sinners.

The educated lost do not believe there is a God, that Man doesn’t live forever. They have received a modern, anti-God education. Atheists who believe the big bang theory. These people are “good” because they like to have their tail feathers stroked. “You don’t have to believe in God to be a good person”.

Most of everyone sees themselves as not being in need of a Saviour. Most are offended when you tell them they are sinners, most will tell you they cannot help being born the way they were, therefore it isn’t their fault, so why should they be degraded to the level of sinner? After all, isn’t this the status rightly given to murderers, rapists, bank robbers, pedophiles and thieves? Aren’t they the hellbound sinners?

Most of these people go by the saying, “do you know who I am?”, which, translated means : “I am a somebody”, read :
“I am a preacher/teacher who attended Bible School”, “I am a Professor”, “I am an educated person with a degree”, “I have millions”, “I have nothing, I am poor, but I will inherit the earth one day”, “I am a doctor”, “I am a scientist”, “I am related to Mother Theresa, didn’t Paul say that if my family believes on the Lord Jesus Christ they and their families would be saved?”, “I continually repent of my sins”, “I live a good life”, “I donate to charity”, “I fight abortion”, “I work in the soup kitchen”, “There is more than one path to God”, “I don’t believe there’s a God, but I’m a good person anyway”, “I have converted to ________”, “I keep the Leviitcal and Mosaic law”, “I only eat fish on Fridays”, “I don’t eat pork”, “I am a Missionary”, “I am a good citizen”, “I don’t drink, take drugs or cuss”, “I attend every prayer meeting, as well as church every Sunday”, “I am a family man”, “I am a good husband/wife”. “I am a Jew, I am chosen”.

In essence what they are saying is that their conscience doesn’t bother them, and if it does, they appease it by thinking/talking/making known all the good they do/have done. In most cases their consciences are seared because they continually overlook the “prompts”, so they deny they are totally depraved beings in need of a Saviour.

I recall how my conscience bothered me prior to my salvation, I knew I was no good, I knew I couldn’t stop sinning no matter how much I tried, trying to be a good person and singing my own praises (as most people out there do : sing their own praises) made me feel like a hypocrite – who was I trying to fool? No-one but myself. In fact now that I am saved (no longer a sinner), I still haven’t refrained from sinning (in my flesh). I do however know my spirit man, my innerman is saved and that I still live in this corrupt, earthly body, in a sin cursed world, but I also know that my flesh has to eventually be brought under subjection of my saved spirit man. I will however never be perfect whilst I am clothed in this earthly suit.

One thing I have however realised is that at times one needs to let go of certain people and certain situations, to have the courage and strength to turn around and walk away because one’s conscience is pricked, and if you ignore it, you will live to regret it.

You cannot make a (self) righteous human being believe the gospel if he doesn’t see himself as being a hellbound sinner. Especially in today’s politically correct world where you aren’t allowed to distinguish between homosexual or straight, good or evil, lost or saved (we are all One, remember?). Our world is about diversification, you can see it in films that have recently been released, the underlying genre being, “Tow the line, fall in line, it’s the only way we will accomplish world peace, rebellion in any form will not be tolerated”.

We’ve moved from having a common enemy, namely communism, to having a common enemy of Islam, which will soon “push” us into accepting Fascism as the answer for all our ills. World domination where peoples’ lives are micro-managed in the name of peace and love. It used to be christianity vs communism, though said christianity wasn’t christianity at all, today it’s “Islam is a religion of peace”, but there is no peace, and soon it will be, “Because you are like vermin on the earth (Man), we will have no choice but to destroy you if you do not fall in line in order to save the planet”. I’d say it’s a world almost ripe and ready to accept a charismatic leader, namely the Antichrist. The conditioning of the mind comes first, i.e., the mindset must change, then the implemenation of whatever system is built upon the foundation of the altered mindset, which is a Godless mindset.

It is for this reason why I am under the impression that it will soon be illegal to preach the gospel, because you will not be allowed to call lost people lost, nor sinners, nor state that they are hellbound for eternity. I can see it : “Prove we are sinners and are hellbound”, so you pull out your Bible (which will in all likelihood be illegal too) – and yes….. do I need to say more? Pauline Christianity doesn’t fit into any diversification plan because we as saved people must not fellowship with unbelievers, nor can we refrain from being the light of the world, i.e., preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ to lost people (1 Corinthians 15:1-4).

In today’s world, the amount of people who are just totally skewed like “Caitlin” for example, those who believe in alternate methods of “healing” (spiritual and physical), not to mention those who still believe that God still physically heals peoples’ bodies today, the cold bloodedness of others, the total disregard for human life, the hunger for power and money and status, the amount of false converts, the deception, the arrogance, the fear, the injustices in this world are just overwhelming at times.

The Romans of old were the “somebodies” of Paul’s day. Some of them so happened to be Jews too. They lived in an empire which ruled the world, they had their own gods, their temples, in general, life was good for them, that is why Paul preached to them that irrespective of their knowledge and religion, they were depraved hellbound sinners whose belief system which had been set aside, that they were concluded in unrighteousness, sin along with the rest of humanity, meaning they too needed a Saviour. A good example of these “good people” today who are somebodies would be wealthy movie stars who have millions in the bank, do good works by way of charity work for the UN. Try and tell a person like this they are a hellbound sinner and what do you expect the outcome to be?

In most instances, you cannot tell a somebody they are in fact a nobody. You can, but whether you will succeed in convincing them is entirely another matter. So you need to try another approach with these people, if their consciences haven’t been seared.

To me, having one’s conscience seared is like having your warning system removed, and with those who are saved, this means over-riding something that bothers you – ignoring what your mind is telling you when it comes to certain issues, so the next time you do it, it will bother you less and eventually it won’t bother you at all, and your mantra will become, “so what, I am saved”.

Religious peoples’ conscience bother them to a certain degree, so they try to appease it with good works or repenting of their sins, this keeps them on a permanent path of doing good works in order to save their souls. Eventually they run out of fuel or stamina (consciences become seared), then they only do good works in public to keep up pretenses.

The only reason why the majority turn to religion is to appease their consciences, but in the long run it doesn’t work, ask me, I know. It’s okay for the first few years, but then the glitter and glamour wears off. So you either live your life lying to yourself, claiming to be living in faith by continually reinforcing your “blessings”, or you turn away from it all in one of two ways: you either turn totally away from God and do not want anything more to do with religion, church, pastors/teachers or christians, or (b) you continue to look for the truth because you realise the mainline brand of christianity is built on a foundation of sand.


……. knucklehead who believes this :

“Don’t judge those who sin differently to you”

Should read and study the Apostle Paul’s first epistle to the Corinthians.

1 Corinthians 5:12 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

Paul’s first epistle to the Corinthians is proof that saved people can behave just like lost people, or even worse, which leads me to the question : What do Lordship Salvationists make of 1 Corinthians – how do they make it fit into their performance based salvation of having to change one’s life, repent of one’s sin and making Jesus the Lord of one’s life in order to obtain salvation?

I know their response to bringing up Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians, that it doesn’t validate bad behaviour – and so they turn it into an entirely different issue – totally missing the point that saved people can behave like buffoons, hence one shouldn’t look to anyone’s behaviour/attitude as proof of their salvation, but rather to find out what they actually believe concerning their salvation.  Our salvation comes via the mind, not via the body/flesh.

My conclusion concerning their beliefs/line of thinking is that if one is in the flesh (unsaved), one looks to the flesh for evidence (of salvation) – you look for outward proof, of another’s spiritual condition, (things you can see), because you are walking by sight.

The moral of the story of those who are in the Body of Christ who blatantly do not exercise any self-control as pertaining to their flesh is 1 Corinthians 5:5 : To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.


This isn’t practised even remotely today in the Body of Christ because most are terribly politically correct, I say.

Besides, it is seen as being too harsh coming from a wussy Mid-Acts Dispensational point of view, those who are suitably propped up with suspect doctrine, and who gather unto themselves teachers.

“Can’t we all just agree to disagree or just get along?”

Is it any wonder that those who are still clothed in their own righteousness pull rabbits out of the hat like, “you have a license to sin”, or, “you believe in cheap grace”

But them that are without God judgeth.

1 Corinthians 7:9 9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

….. than burn.   This doesn’t pertain to hell/the lake of fire, it pertains to the Judgment Seat of Christ :

1 Corinthians 3:15   If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

As we are living/as we have lived in this body of flesh during our tenure on this earth as saved members of the body of Christ:

*Sound doctrine matters

*How we behave in the flesh matters

*What Bible we uphold and believe matters





This evil world

America first and then all democratic countries will follow suit.  And if you think Donald Trump as President is the answer, think again.  Why do you think he had a meeting with Henry Kissinger (a known Globalist) a few days ago?

I am also of the opinion that Facebook is one of the tools the Globalists are using today to gauge general opinions and to obtain consensus on how people react to certain newsworthy posts like acts of terrorism, politicians, speeches, certain world events, etc.  This is why I have basically withdrawn from Facebook – no-one is going to follow me around, not any company, not any government nor any law enforcement institution.

When government micro-manages, or tries to micro-manage one’s life – then you know things are going to get bad.  I can see the writing on the wall.  I am so cynical about this world, you cannot begin to imagine how I feel about politics, politicians, governments that behave like criminals, people who degrade themselves by committing perverted sexual acts on TV and in public, lost people standing behind the pulpits of so-called churches, lost people trying to fix this evil world, fruitcakes who are nuttier than nut trees and where the “modern family” is perceived as having two mothers or two fathers, and the vast majority of people who just cannot bring themselves to believe in Christ’s finished work on Calvary’s cross alone for their salvation – just to name but a few of the things that make this world sick to the core.   Some days I wish I had some terminal disease so I could die and be rid of it all.  That’s how I honestly feel most days.

This article isn’t mine – I copied and pasted it from elsewhere :

Redevelopment is a tool used to further the Agenda 21 vision of remaking America’s cities. As America goes so does the rest of the “democratic” world. The below article is specifically related to the US, however this initiative is global and is on every doorstep in the means of ushering in the New World Order.

With redevelopment, cities have the right to take property by eminent domain—against the will of the property owner, and give it or sell it to a private developer.

By declaring an area of town ‘blighted’ (and in some cities over 90% of the city area has been declared blighted) the property taxes in that area can be diverted away from the General Fund. This constriction of available funds is impoverishing the cities, forcing them to offer less and less services, and reducing your standard of living. They’ll be telling you that it’s better, however, since they’ve put in nice street lights and colored paving.

The money gets redirected into the Redevelopment Agency and handed out to favored developers building low income housing and mixed use. Smart Growth. Cities have had thousands of condos built in the redevelopment areas and are telling you that you are terrible for wanting your own yard, for wanting privacy, for not wanting to be dictated to by a Condo Homeowner’s Association Board, for being anti-social, for not going along to get along, for not moving into a cramped apartment downtown where they can use your property taxes for paying off that huge bond debt. But it’s not working, and you don’t want to move in there. So they have to make you. Read on.

Human habitation, as it is referred to now, is restricted to lands within the Urban Growth Boundaries of the city. Only certain building designs are permitted. Rural property is more and more restricted in what uses can be on it.

Although counties say that they support agricultural uses, eating locally produced food, farmer’s markets, etc, in fact there are so many regulations restricting water and land use (there are scenic corridors, inland rural corridors, baylands corridors, area plans, specific plans, redevelopment plans, huge fees, fines) that farmers are losing their lands altogether. County roads are not being paved. The push is for people to get off of the land, become more dependent, come into the cities. To get out of the suburbs and into the cities. Out of their private homes and into condos. Out of their private cars and onto their bikes.

Bikes. What does that have to do with it? I like to ride my bike and so do you. So what? Bicycle advocacy groups are very powerful now. Advocacy. A fancy word for lobbying, influencing, and maybe strong-arming the public and politicians. What’s the conection with bike groups? National groups such as Complete Streets, Thunderhead Alliance, and others, have training programs teaching their members how to pressure for redevelopment, and training candidates for office. It’s not just about bike lanes, it’s about remaking cities and rural areas to the ‘sustainable model’.

High density urban development without parking for cars is the goal. This means that whole towns need to be demolished and rebuilt in the image of sustainable development. Bike groups are being used as the ‘shock troops’ for this plan.

What plan? We’re losing our homes since this recession/depression began, and many of us could never afford those homes to begin with. We got cheap money, used whatever we had to squeak into those homes, and now some of us lost them. We were lured, indebted, and sunk. Whole neighborhoods are empty in some places. Some are being bulldozed. Cities cannot afford to extend services outside of their core areas. Slowly, people will not be able to afford single family homes. Will not be able to afford private cars. Will be more dependent. More restricted. More easily watched and monitored.

This plan is a whole life plan. It involves the educational system, the energy market, the transportation system, the governmental system, the health care system, food production, and more. The plan is to restrict your choices, limit your funds, narrow your freedoms, and take away your voice. One of the ways is by using the Delphi Technique to ‘manufacture consensus.’ Another is to infiltrate community groups or actually start neighborhood associations with hand-picked ‘leaders’.

Another is to groom and train future candidates for local offices. Another is to sponsor non-governmental groups that go into schools and train children. Another is to offer federal and private grants and funding for city programs that further the agenda. Another is to educate a new generation of land use planners to require New Urbanism. Another is to convert factories to other uses, introduce energy measures that penalize manufacturing, and set energy consumption goals to pre-1985 levels. Another is to allow unregulated immigration in order to lower standards of living and drain local resources.

All of this sounds unbelievable until you have had direct experience with it.


If you only have your own righteousness :

Romans 3:10 ~ For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

It’s impossible to have God’s righteousness at the same time :

Romans 3:21 – 22 ~ But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

God’s righteousness cancels out your own righteousness.   So when God looks at you He sees Christ’s righteousness = no sin.


What is one’s own righteousness?

It is the notion that a person can engender or produce within themselves a righteousness that is acceptable to God, but because of their sin nature, it’s impossible to do so because they are fallible human beings who constantly submit to temptation.

How does one obtain God’s righteousness?

Through faith alone in Christ’s finished work on the cross at Calvary :

By believing the Gospel : 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 :

Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: