Of Ale And Dragons

“Jesus paid for your sins but you’ll pay for them again in hell if you don’t believe.

That my friends is called “Limited Atonement” and “Double Jeopardy”.

“Paid for” appears nowhere in scripture…

They were imputed to Christ’s account and bled out…. Period.”

Polly wants a cracker.

If “Jesus paid for one’s sins and one pays for them again in hell if one doesn’t believe” is called Limited Atonement”, I wonder what “Jesus paid for one’s sins, so all are forgiven, but one stands a 99% chance of landing up in hell anyway” means?  Rank inanity?

Where is the atonement when landing up in hell with one’s sins forgiven?

Some people need to read Romans 6 – slowly.

And…. where in the Bible does it say “bled out…. Period”?

Obviously some do not know what Limited or Definite Atonement means, nor Double Jeopardy for that matter….. can someone say “Strawman”?

Double jeopardy means a person, the same person that is, cannot be tried for the same crime twice…. are we and Jesus the same people?

What this “teacher” and “preacher” sees as Limited Atonement, is rightly known as “Provision & Possession”, something he clearly was not taught at the Baptist seminary he attended…. so Unconditional Election it sadly is that drives his doctrine, that God handed out forgiveness to all, but most land up in hell regardless…

If people land up in hell with the their sins forgiven, then God is unjust.  Isn’t it fact that heresies always affect God’s character somehow? Because people only ever land up in hell because of unrighteousness, which is sin.

… in certain aspects I would imagine, it would be best to stick to the doctrine of Welsh Ale and Dragons…?

“But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.” ~ 2 Corinthians 4:2





Time and again I think of how great it would be to fellowship with ALL Saints, but alas, we do not speak the same things because we do not believe the same things.  We do not speak the same language, so to speak.

How can one possibly be expected to have anything to do with saved people on the one hand, who believe and venomously propagate a subtle form of Calvin’s Unconditional Election and Acts 28 theology (everyone’s sins are forgiven but not everyone is saved and Paul only preached to Jews and Gentiles that were nigh in his pre-prison epistles), and on the other hand, there are those who hold to and preach Kenosis.

It’s a minefield out there.   These are major issues.   As a Saint, one does not lower the bar, one rather raises the bar, irrespective of judgment and condemnation.

This blog is a Unconditional Election – Two Sendings of Paul – Kenotic Theology – Acts 28 theology free zone.

Why do I say “everyone’s sins are forgiven, but not everyone is saved” falls under the banner of Calvin’s Unconditional Election? Because they believe God doesn’t send people to hell for their sins, but rather as He deems fit, that’s why, according to their thinking, people go to hell with their sins forgiven….

Unconditional Election is comprised of two different types of grace, one of which is of no consequence (everyone’s sins are forgiven: as if it matters or makes a difference, as the vast majority of people land up in hell anyway), and the other, which is activated by faith when one believes one’s sins are forgiven….. is this making any sense……?

It’s complicated…..  like most doctrines of devils are….. unlike the simplicity that is in Christ. Why believe one’s sins are forgiven, if they’ve already been forgiven? Because they cannot be unforgiven.

Another thing, imagine those from this dispensation landing up in hell with their *sins forgiven* and meeting those from previous dispensations who are in hell because they died in their sins…. does this, would this make God a just God?

It’s like doing something for one’s child, which is of no consequence, and totally pointless.   “I have taken away the very thing which stops you from being bad, but I will still punish you anyway….. I know you think what I’ve given you is great…. but you still have to tow the line….. and will only be good when you believe it…. or else….”

The god of Calvinism is not the God of the Bible!  The vast majority of Right Dividers believe and spread major heretical doctrine, so one must be careful of who one associates with and what books one reads.

And yes, there ARE actually people out there who believe this stuff – plenty.

“But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.” ~ 2 Corinthians 11:3