Christ After The Flesh

Have you ever wondered what it would have been like to live in Israel when Jesus did?

Each year thousands of tourists travel to Israel to walk where Jesus walked, to see the sites of Biblical stories, the waters Jesus walked on, and the path he took through Jerusalem to Calvary.

Maybe you’ve wondered what Jesus looked like in the flesh, or what his personality was like when he was not sermonizing on mountains. Did he laugh? Did he play games? Did he ever stub his toe?

It is not a new thing for writers to surmise what Jesus the child would be like. Since there is even less Biblical description of him as a boy their fictions mesmerize those who want to get a sense of the real presence of Jesus after the flesh.

What we know of Jesus earthly life and ministry is the purpose of what are popularly called the four Gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. These books about Jesus’ life in the flesh are where most of Christianity spends its time in preaching, teaching, and learning about Him.

After all, is not God coming in the flesh and living among us the greatest message of Christianity? Well, not exactly. This is commonly accepted, except that it is not true.

Knowing Christ After the Flesh

The greatest message of Christianity is not Jesus life and ministry in the flesh, but what he did and revealed after he rose again from the dead.

Read what the apostle Paul says about knowing Jesus in the flesh.

“…yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.” – 2 Corinthians 5:16

Knowing Christ after the flesh is learned from the stories of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. The Word was made flesh in John 1:14. His conception and birth of the flesh is described.

Knowing Jesus in his earthly ministry is to know him as the Son of David, the Son of Abraham, the Son of Mary, and the Son of God made flesh. He ate, he slept, he wept, he walked, he lived, and he died. He was circumcised; he kept and taught the law; he observed holy days.

In the flesh he was a Jew, and his ministry in the flesh was toward the lost circumcision in the flesh of Israel.

“…and of [Israel] as concerning the flesh Christ came…” – Romans 9:5

“Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers” – Romans 15:8

Jesus said, “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” – Matthew 15:24

It was in the four Gospels that Jesus was made in the likeness of sinful flesh (Rom 8:3), suffered in the flesh (1 Pet 4:1), and died in the flesh (1 Pet 3:18).

Remember, Paul wrote, “we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more [after the flesh]” (2 Cor 5:16).

When Paul made this statement Jesus’ entire earthly ministry in the flesh was over. The events of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were finished. If we no longer know Christ after the flesh, then how should we know him?

Knowing Christ From Now On

The risen Christ revealed to Paul a new way of knowing him that was not after his life and ministry in the flesh. Paul called it the mystery of Christ, and it concerns the gospel of Christ to all men (Rom 1:16), an heavenly Body of Christ (Eph 3:4-7), and the hope of eternal glory by God’s grace given freely to all (Col 1:25-28).

“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.” – 2 Corinthians 5:17

Instead of knowing Christ in the flesh as the Jewish Messiah prophesied since the world began, we know him as establishing a new creature seated in heavenly places kept secret since the world began (2 Cor 5:17Rom 16:25).

We no longer know him as a Jew born as the son of David, but in Christ there is no Jew nor Greek (Gal 3:28). We no longer know him as King of the Jews, but the Head of this glorious Body called the church over all things (Eph 1:21-23).

This knowledge of Christ is not after the flesh, but rather as the risen Lord and Saviour offering grace to the ungodly and sinners worldwide through faith in the cross.

This message of the grace and mystery of Christ is the greatest message of Christianity and can not be found in the four Gospel books that reveal Christ after the flesh. It is the unique message of the apostle Paul given him by Christ after his ministry in the flesh was over (Gal 1:11-12;1 Cor 15:8-10).

Exploring Jesus in his life after the flesh as a baby, toddler, teenager, or what Jesus would do in his earthly ministry toward the circumcision will only lead to an inferior knowledge of Christ today.

To know Christ as he should be known now is to know Him as he would want to be known: according to Paul’s gospel and the revelation of the mystery.

“Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began…” – Romans 16:25

Written by Justin Johnson, Grace Ambassadors

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NOW to him that worketh..

“Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

Those in this dispensation who work for their salvation (or try to), the reward is reckoned of debt.  In other words, they still owe, and will do so until the day they die, because they haven’t received, neither have they believed God’s grace whereby their sin debt is/ can be cancelled.  Their works can never justify them in the sight of God.  

But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

To the individual that does not do good works for salvation, but rather believes the gospel, his faith is counted for righteousness.  One’s faith is the key to obtaining God’s righteousness.  Of course, faith must have an object, in this instance it’s the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4).

Even as David ALSO describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

King David also mentioned or described the very same thing.  Those whose sins are forgiven (present tense), whose sins are covered (present tense), are blessed.

Saying , Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

BLESSED is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.”

~ Romans 4:4-8

“And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying , In thee shall all nations be BLESSED” ~ Galatians 3:8

So then they which be of faith are BLESSED with faithful Abraham.” ~ Galatians 3:9

 

Of Ale And Dragons

“Jesus paid for your sins but you’ll pay for them again in hell if you don’t believe.

That my friends is called “Limited Atonement” and “Double Jeopardy”.

“Paid for” appears nowhere in scripture…

They were imputed to Christ’s account and bled out…. Period.”

Polly wants a cracker.

If “Jesus paid for one’s sins and one pays for them again in hell if one doesn’t believe” is called Limited Atonement”, I wonder what “Jesus paid for one’s sins, so all are forgiven, but one stands a 99% chance of landing up in hell anyway” means?  Rank inanity?

Where is the atonement when landing up in hell with one’s sins forgiven?

Some people need to read Romans 6 – slowly.

And…. where in the Bible does it say “bled out…. Period”?

Obviously some do not know what Limited or Definite Atonement means, nor Double Jeopardy for that matter….. can someone say “Strawman”?

Double jeopardy means a person, the same person that is, cannot be tried for the same crime twice…. are we and Jesus the same people?

What this “teacher” and “preacher” sees as Limited Atonement, is rightly known as “Provision & Possession”, something he clearly was not taught at the Baptist seminary he attended…. so Unconditional Election it sadly is that drives his doctrine, that God handed out forgiveness to all, but most land up in hell regardless…

If people land up in hell with the their sins forgiven, then God is unjust.  Isn’t it fact that heresies always affect God’s character somehow? Because people only ever land up in hell because of unrighteousness, which is sin.

… in certain aspects I would imagine, it would be best to stick to the doctrine of Welsh Ale and Dragons…?

“But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.” ~ 2 Corinthians 4:2

 

 

Fellowship

Time and again I think of how great it would be to fellowship with ALL Saints, but alas, we do not speak the same things because we do not believe the same things.  We do not speak the same language, so to speak.

How can one possibly be expected to have anything to do with saved people on the one hand, who believe and venomously propagate a subtle form of Calvin’s Unconditional Election and Acts 28 theology (everyone’s sins are forgiven but not everyone is saved and Paul only preached to Jews and Gentiles that were nigh in his pre-prison epistles), and on the other hand, there are those who hold to and preach Kenosis.

It’s a minefield out there.   These are major issues.   As a Saint, one does not lower the bar, one rather raises the bar, irrespective of judgment and condemnation.

This blog is a Unconditional Election – Two Sendings of Paul – Kenotic Theology – Acts 28 theology free zone.

Why do I say “everyone’s sins are forgiven, but not everyone is saved” falls under the banner of Calvin’s Unconditional Election? Because they believe God doesn’t send people to hell for their sins, but rather as He deems fit, that’s why, according to their thinking, people go to hell with their sins forgiven….

Unconditional Election is comprised of two different types of grace, one of which is of no consequence (everyone’s sins are forgiven: as if it matters or makes a difference, as the vast majority of people land up in hell anyway), and the other, which is activated by faith when one believes one’s sins are forgiven….. is this making any sense……?

It’s complicated…..  like most doctrines of devils are….. unlike the simplicity that is in Christ. Why believe one’s sins are forgiven, if they’ve already been forgiven? Because they cannot be unforgiven.

Another thing, imagine those from this dispensation landing up in hell with their *sins forgiven* and meeting those from previous dispensations who are in hell because they died in their sins…. does this, would this make God a just God?

It’s like doing something for one’s child, which is of no consequence, and totally pointless.   “I have taken away the very thing which stops you from being bad, but I will still punish you anyway….. I know you think what I’ve given you is great…. but you still have to tow the line….. and will only be good when you believe it…. or else….”

The god of Calvinism is not the God of the Bible!  The vast majority of Right Dividers believe and spread major heretical doctrine, so one must be careful of who one associates with and what books one reads.

And yes, there ARE actually people out there who believe this stuff – plenty.

“But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.” ~ 2 Corinthians 11:3